50. When God Became an Atheist, with Kutter Callaway, author of The Aesthetics of Atheism

Can an atheist participate with God in the healing of the world? If one who doesn’t believe in God volunteers at the local homeless shelter, should Christians dismiss that? If an atheist adopts an abused child into a home of love and acceptance, a place where that child can heal from the wounds of their past, are we to dismiss that?

Those are the kinds of questions that Kutter Callaway and I wrestle with in this episode.  We talk about culture. We talk about the church. We talk about atheism. And we talk about “the previousness of the kingdom.”

THIS EPISODE’S HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE:

• Kutter Callaway is the Associate Professor of Theology and Culture at Fuller Theological Seminary and the other of several books including The Aesthetics of Atheism.
• A formative book that Kutter Callaway has read in recent years is Nobody Cries When We Die by Patrick Reyes.
• Kutter’s colleague at Fuller, Bill Dyrness, defines culture as the stuff we create from God’s creation. It’s what we make of what’s here.
• Religion “makes culture odd.” For instance, everyone eats bread and drinks wine. But we do that in an “odd” way.
• Christianity is not separate from culture. We are called to engage culture because we are a part of the culture.
• Lesslie Newbigin, in the The Open Secret, talks about “the previousness of the kindgdom.” God is already ahead of us in the culture and we are invited to joing God.
• In The Aesthetics of Atheism, Kutter Callaway interestingly says that theism and atheism need each other.
• Interesting thought: In that moment when Jesus on the cross feels abandoned by the Father, God becomes an atheist.
• The Bible is full of prophetic voices from outside of God’s people.
• Culture can be a destroyer of shalom. It can also be a restorer of shalom.
• A healthy posture for pastors and ministry leaders to take toward culture is the posture of the injured man on the side of the road in the Good Samaritan story. It is a posture of humility and receptivity. Culture is like the untouchable Samaritan, but we need to let it help us.
• The right question today might not be, “How do we help culture?” Rather, “How do we listen to, learn from, and humble ourselves in ways that allow us to be evangelized by the God who is at work out there?”
• Learn more about Kutter Callaway at www.kuttercallaway.com and listen to his podcast, The Kutter Callaway Podcast.

RELEVANT RESOURCES AND LINKS

• Kutter Callaway 
  • Website:  https://www.kuttercallaway.com
  • Podcast:  https://www.kuttercallaway.com/podcast
• Books mentioned: 
  • The Aesthetics of Atheism by Kutter Callaway and Barry Taylor
  • Nobody Cries When We Die by Patrick Reyes
  • The Open Secret by Lesslie Newbigin
  • God’s Wider Presence by Rob Johnston

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